Discussion questions from ReadingGroupGuides. Answers are mine. (Contains spoilers! You think you know what’s going to happen in this book, but you don’t! – At least, I didn’t.)
1. Non-maternal, ambivalent mothers are one of the last taboos — and Eva is a prime example. Were her motives for having a baby entirely selfish? And if so, how much can that have factored into the outcome of an abnormally difficult baby and apathetic child? In contrast to Kevin, Celia was loving, needy and sweet — and her mother’s favorite, if not her father’s. By the very end of the novel, has Eva’s love for Kevin, or at least her primitive loyalty to him, finally become unconditional? How does this fit in with the feminist ideal of motherhood?
I think Eva’s motives for having a baby are probably similar to anyone else’s – at least, similar to the motivations of many older mothers who have a happy marriage, a nice house and a successful career. This is exactly the stage at which many women are choosing to have children now. There’s nothing inherently selfish about this.
Other women – whose offspring have turned out less disastrously than Eva’s – would reason that very same choice in more positive terms: ‘I had a good life, so why not share it with a child?’ The ‘selfish’ accusation is fruitless because it goes both ways. I’ve heard people say that it is selfish NOT to have children. It all depends on your individual world-view.
Really, why does anyone have children these days? You might well ask, especially of someone in Eva’s position. It’s clear, children don’t make everyone happy, and it’s perhaps selfish to expect them to.
The Chicago Tribune recently divided happiness in two:
- Day to day happiness
- Long-term satisfaction
When it comes to having kids, I think your own kids contribute to both kinds of happiness, but parents soon learn to focus on the long-term rewards, especially in those first sleep-deprived months before the baby is even smiling. With kids, there can be two hours of happiness, ten-minutes of unhappy tantruming, another half-hour of good, two-hours of misery in the car. Children are a funny kind of happiness. But like childbirth itself, mothers tend to look back with overall fondness. (Unless it all turns to shit, in which case they may view child-rearing as Eva does.)
As for Unconditional Love, by the end of the novel I did not interpret that Eva’s love for Kevin had suddenly become ‘unconditional’. Sure, she bought an apartment with a spare bedroom in anticipation of him joining her upon release from prison. Its sheets are clean and she has furnished Kevin’s room with his favourite book. But this is Eva’s way of accepting responsibility. We haven’t enough words in English to express all the different kinds of love. Perhaps ‘unconditional responsibility’ is a better phrase for Eva in relation to her son.
(What’s the ‘feminist ideal of motherhood’ anyway? There are so many different sects of feminism. I’d hate to lump feminists all in together.)
2. Is Eva’s view of Kevin colored by her ambivalence about motherhood in general, or perhaps by hindsight knowledge of his eventual violence? Is Eva responsible for creating a child she sees as a monster, or was he a monster all along?
The very act of writing letters to her dead husband enforces a high degree of self-reflection – she says so on the very last page. It’s impossible that Eva’s view of Kevin are not coloured by two years of heavy reflection.
As for the old nature-versus-nurture debate, even the experts can’t agree on this. Since having a child of my own, I’m inclined to think – from my own limited experience – that it’s about half genes and half environment.
Environment itself can be split in two again: the home versus the community (encompassing school, other significant adults, TV, media, books etc.) Again, I’d say this sphere of influence is probably only about fifty-fifty. I don’t believe adults have that much control over their teenagers. If the groundwork isn’t there at age five, the kid is probably lost for life. This view is pessimistic and fatalistic. Nevertheless, I think it’s pretty much the case.
3. Eva’s tone changes throughout the course of her letter-writing. She is in turns angry, frustrated and mystified. Could you describe Eva as a loving mother — in deed if not in thought? Was Kevin overly indulged by a parenting style that let him potty train and learn at his own pace?
I’m sure all mothers have experienced each of Eva’s ‘tones’ at various stages. I suspect Eva experienced a form of post-natal depression after Kevin which she didn’t after Celia. So many mothers are affected by PND that this is highly likely in Eva’s case. The pressures on mothers to do everything right for their children is so high these days that even trouble with breast-feeding can send a new mother into a downward spiral. I’m actually a little surprised – after all Eva’s reflection – that she didn’t consider the possibility of PND. (Or did she? Can’t remember it.)
Perhaps Eva is more like Kevin than even she realises – Kevin takes full responsibility for his own actions. Eva would too. For some, admitting to a weakness – even to a psychological illness - feels worse than accepting culpability for something truly heinous. This is a shame.
4. Did the inclusion of a child into Eva and Franklin’s stable, loving relationship cause the rift between them? Did the fact of a child threaten their marriage? How was Kevin perceived as a threat by Eva from conception? What expectations did Eva have of motherhood and how did she meet the reality of it? Was Franklin unsupportive of Eva?
Relationships are not tested until after children enter a relationship. A reshuffling takes place as mother, father and child jockey for position. Eva and Franklin’s relationship may look better in hindsight than it actually was. It’s natural that Eva look back to that period in her life with rose-tinted glasses; it’s all she has.
Perhaps older mothers have more difficulty accepting motherhood. I think this is symbolised by Eva’s choice to keep her own name. For an older woman, getting married is not always a reason to change her name. After all, she’s been her own person for much of her life. Likewise, an older woman’s body has been her own long before it becomes a baby-making machine.
In contrast, a young woman who gives birth straight out of high school has less to sacrifice than a woman like Eva who seemed to have it all. Women now have a choice in whether they have children and how many we have. (More accurately: educated, middle-class women have the real choice.) When women get older, we’ve had more time to think things through. We understand the consequences of having children and that this decision is the single biggest one we’ll ever make in our lives. When women are younger, I don’t think we think things through as much. We take more risks in general and, for many young parents, having children is just another one – not even a risk, in most cases – more like a life-stage, like ‘getting a place to live’, ‘buying a car’, ‘moving in together’.
5. The irony of Eva having read Robin Hood to an ailing, needy Kevin at a time of almost shocking mother-son bonding is played out in the way Kevin massacred his fellow students and the teacher who took an interest in him. Since it is Eva who connects Kevin’s fevered state with her recollection of his unusual interest in anything whatsoever, is it possible that Kevin’s methods were meant to figuratively slay his mother?
It is difficult for a reader to surmise anything about Kevin, because we only see him through the eyes of his mother. We have no way of knowing how accurately Eva portrays Kevin, however tempting it is to take her word for events as they happened. Kevin does not have a single redeeming quality, so it’s possible he did mean to slay his mother figuratively. Eva draws him as a psychopath.
The one thing which indicates a little humanism is the TV interview Kevin gave from his jail cell, during which he refused to answer questions about his mother, choosing instead to respect her privacy. I think Kevin respected Eva for at least understanding him. He did not respect his father; Franklin was too naive to see the boy for what he really is.
6. After Eva throws Kevin across the room, she takes him to the hospital. She confesses later on to Franklin, “However much I deserved rebuke, I still preferred the slow burn of private self-excoriation to the hot lash of public reproof.” Are Eva’s letters to Franklin her form of self-excoriation, though she is suffering public reproof as the mother of a mass murderer?
I didn’t realise until near the end – when it was revealed – that Franklin (and Celia) had been slayed along with the people from school. So Franklin will never see Eva’s letters, and Eva’s confessions to Franklin are confessions to no one.
Yes, the letters are a form of self-excoriation – a catharsis – a release. But the nature of writing such things is that they act as a temporary relief from pain. She may be fooling herself into thinking her son was a born psychopath. She may, in fact, be omitting many other details which would lead the reader to believe that it is actually Eva who is the true psychopath. She may be fooling herself.
7. Does Eva feel responsible for Kevin’s series of nasty deeds and childhood “pranks?” Does she think she could have prevented any of it? Does she come to realize why Kevin would harm other children or does she give up trying to understand? How can we sympathize with a mother and father who saw all the warning signs but failed to stop the violence?
Eva admits on the final page that she has no idea how much she is to blame. She tells events as she thinks they happened, and gives up trying to pass judgment. Shriver’s protagonist gives up because it is the job of the reader to pass judgment, or more accurately, to think deeply enough about this issue in order that we understand the shades of grey.
Eva saw the warning signs but I don’t think Franklin did. (No one, not even Eva, could predict that her own son would turn into a mass-murderer though.) Franklin was your typical hood-winked parent. In fact, Eva was vilified for seeing her son’s true colours. Mothers, of all people, are supposed to stand up for their children even against all odds. Eva is damned that she did, damned that she didn’t.
8. Given that the story is told from Eva’s perspective only, can she be trusted as reliable? How do you think Franklin’s version of events would have differed? Might Eva choose to portray Kevin in childhood as more wicked than he really was, if only to make her seem less culpable for his crimes as a teenager?
Eva is an unreliable narrator, but the fact these letters are to herself, strewn across her desk for no one’s eyes but her own, reveal at the end of the book that she has no reason to lie to anyone else. If she’s lying, it’s to herself.
Eva certainly understands intricacies of a topic. She writes:
‘Let’s talk about power. In the domestic polity, myth dictates that parents are endowed with a disproportionate amount of it. I’m not so sure. Children? They can break our hearts, for a start. They can shame us, they can bankrupt us, and I can personally attest that they can make us wish we were never born. (p202)’
I think this is one of the central and most interesting ideas thrown up by this novel. Notes on a Scandal by Zoe Heller examined similar themes – asking the question: Can teenagers be responsible for their part in crime, even if under the age of majority? After all, our age of majority is arbitrary.
Franklin would have been a less reflective narrator. Certainly, he never saw the true evil in Kevin, not until the moment before he was killed, when his corpse looked ‘disappointed’. (This chilled me.) Eva was the better choice of narrator, and her froidure is prerequisite. A warm character would have told a less objective tale, subjective as this tale must be.
9. What were Eva’s reasons for having a second child? Did Franklin forgive her for the deception? Was she repentant? How closely were her expectations met and was she gratified? How did Franklin’s attitude toward Kevin and Celia differ?
Perhaps Eva wanted to find out if the problem was with her or with Kevin – a second child might prove Eva’s success as a mother – if not as a mother to Kevin, at least as a mother to somebody else. She had already lost control of Kevin by the time she gave birth to Celia.
Also, I’ve noticed that most people speak of their decision to ‘have children’. Very rarely do you hear somebody say, ‘We’re thinking of having A Child.’ Once you’ve made the decision (Eva would say ‘sacrifice’) to become a mother of one, you’re not giving up much more to become a mother of two. There is immense pressure to have more than one child, because of out-dated ideas about Only Child Syndrome and such-like.
Biology no doubt played a part – at the age of 44 she had a very narrow window in which to conceive. The effects of ageing are permanent.
10. Toward the end of the novel, it is revealed that Kevin has more complicated feelings about his mother and some of the 9 people he murdered. This gives us a hint as to why he might have carefully planned and carried out Thursday. Does he seem pathetic or more deserving of compassion because he may have had a motive, after all?
I interpret this as simply ‘growing up’. I don’t believe people can fully understand consequences until we are in our mid-twenties, at least, even intelligent people like Kevin.
I did not feel compassion for Kevin. I don’t believe this was the author’s intention. I felt compassion for his mother. The story is Eva’s.
11. At the conclusion of the novel, did you find Eva sympathetic in a way you may not have initially? Do you think Eva has sympathy and forgiveness for herself? Is she able to accept Kevin, and to see his personality as, however uncomfortably, akin to her own?
Probably due to Eva’s honesty – or perceived honesty – I felt compassion for Eva the whole way through. I found letters to her husband extremely sad, more so when I learned of his death.
I have heard other readers say they found Eva cold throughout. Others lose compassion for her in the final chapters, but that wasn’t the case for me.
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As always, it’s a feat when an author manages to engage a reader throughout a novel with an ‘unlikeable character’. It’s easier to write a likeable character. But to make a character interesting – despite her glaring flaws – interesting enough to engage readers and leave us with complex feelings about her – now that’s an achievement.
This is a truly outstanding book that left me cold. Cold, but thoughtful.
Related Links:
1. Are Some Children Just Born Evil?
2. Looking Again At We Need To Talk About Kevin by Lionel Shriver, from Blue Milk






